Question:

“I own an upper level condo. I’d like to have hardwood floors, but my HOA says no because of the noise factor to the owner below me. Is there some kind of soundproofing material that can be put under the hardwood?”

Answer:

My first thought was to contact a company called Green Glue Company because I thought they  would have the most simple solution to your problem. Their product is so advanced, you literally acheive soundproofing with their glue product.

 Below is their response:

“ For this situation (improving impact noise, no access to the ceiling), what can be accomplished becomes a question of how much the height of the floor can be changed. Adding Green Glue and another layer of plywood or OSB will have a pronounced effect on noise levels, but for another 1/2″, adding a layer of soundboard between the existing subfloor and the new plywood/OSB will deliver better results. Thicker build-ups can deliver more… Most any level of isolation can be attained, allowable thickness and cost are ultimately the factors that determine what performance can be attained.

When comparing the impact noise performance of carpet -vs- hardwood, a Green Glue + hardwood setup will yield as good or better low-frequency noise isolation (booms from feet hitting the floor), but more high frequency noise (high heels on the wood, sliding chairs, dropped silverware, etc.).

I have some data on this kind of thing – for dropped balls and various other means of stimulating the floor – that I can send if it would be helpful.”

    

  

 

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Posted Tuesday, May 27th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
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Responses to “Reader Question – Hardwood Floors in a Second Floor Condo”

FloorFella

What happens when the Green Glue dries and loses it’s viscoelastic properties? What is the Impact Insulation Class (IIC) with this setup and how long will it maintain the specification? There are many tried and tested materials for under floating, glue down and nail-down hardwood surfaces. Most flooring installers should be able to help you choose the right product and meet code requirements for the IIC.

Vince Salerno

cork is one of the best sound deadners out and works well with laminate

FloorFella

Vince, yes cork is good. There are some waffle textured corks which minimize contact points to reduce structural vibrations being propagated into the floor/ceiling section. There are also some rubber/cork composites out there that work great as well as some thinner materials like cross-linked polyolefin and polyethylene roll-stock products that can often provide moisture barriers as part of a two-layer composite. Most of these are effective. Not so sure about a water based adhesive.

Ted

Once dried in a week or so, Green Glue is done “drying.” It doesn’t lose properties over time. Common polymers are degraded by heat and UV rays, something that a wall or floor will not be subjected to.

You will have much better success damping (converting to heat) a vibration than blocking it. Best approach is a combination of efforts / techniques.

mark

I live downstairs from a unit with wood floors. It is horrible, despite an underlayment with a respectable IIC rating. BEWARE – the IIC rating does not reflect sound below 100 Hz (the deep thuds) and once structure borne, travel great distance. There is ample literature on this online and many horror stories like mine. Be considerate and do not install wood floors unless you’re in a steel concrete structure and have done your homework. This is a huge problem and the cause of many disputes.

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